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The Muse Tries to Talk Sense

  • Oct. 7th, 2006 at 5:41 AM
Don't fuck with the Jesus
"While we're picking on religions," I said, "what's the deal with the Pope 'redefining' limbo? Doesn't it sort of rob your god of his authority when you go ahead and change the rules on your followers? Isn't it sort of like saying that from now on, hitting a home run is an automatic out, or that buying an Annie Lennox album if you're a man makes you straight?"

"Look," the Muse said. "If you're going to make fun of other people's religious beliefs, could you maybe do it with a group that won't read you and maybe decide to come beat you up for it? How about the Amish? I'm pretty sure they don't do anything on the internet."

"Because Scientology is just silly, and the Christians make it a point to tell everyone else what to do with their lives, while as far as I can tell the Amish just live and let live."

"I'm going to make fun of you Buddhists if you keep it up."

"Go ahead," I said. "At least we have a sense of humor about it."

"You're going to Scientology and Christian hell," she said. "You snarky fuck."


koloagirl wrote:
Oct. 7th, 2006 12:19 pm (UTC)
I hadn't seen this news yet, myself. Whoa. What happened to all that speculation that this guy wasn't going to rock the boat after JPII passed away? That he was just a placeholder until the Church got its act together and could nominate someone they'd agree upon... Um.

I feel like I've done one of those Scooby Doo double-takes, sound effects included. When I read a bit further into the proclamation, though, what he did isn't particularly radical (imo). He didn't get rid of purgatory, but limbo, apparently not synonymous under doctrine. It's not so controversial to get rid of a place that has to do with the unborn or children going to heaven -- the kids apparently get a free pass, no wait in "Ethereal Day Care."

Yes, that makes it alright -- we Catholics can go on living our religiously uncomplicated lives again *lifts eyes to heaven and shakes head*
king_cool_paul wrote:
Oct. 7th, 2006 08:00 pm (UTC)
I guess the part I don't really get is how--and forgive me if this sounds squirrely, because I'm really not picking on anybody's religion here--a "man," even the Pope, can change what are basically the rules of "God," for what I am understanding to be basically a move going in a popular opinion sort of direction, designed to sort of win over people in developing nations with high death rates for newborn infants. I mean, isn't Christianity sort of built on a premise of "here are the rules, now follow them or else?"

Really, honestly, seriously, I'm not picking on anybody here (and I'm sorry if this doesn't make much sense, I'm trying to write it coherently while someone is talking to me about Scientology and cat vomit and buying groceries and general every day life stuff that I have to sort of pay attention to), but if rules are rules, can they just be changed simply because?

Feel free to pick on me for my Buddhism, by the way, if it makes you feel better ;)
koloagirl wrote:
Oct. 7th, 2006 11:55 pm (UTC)
Not feeling picked on in the least :D You figure, Limbo was "created" *cough* in the 13th century to explain what happened to infants who died in childbirth, were stillborn, etc., because they were unbaptized. All the Pope did was undo something created by another Pope.

I say that last sentence as if it's a trivial matter. As you well know, it's hard to take any account that's been subject to language translations, interpretations, etc., etc., etc., at face value. And yet, people do that with the Bible all the time, Jews, Catholics, and other Christian faiths alike, because they take it as being an "inspired" text delivered by God.

Far be it from me to know which text is "right" or "authentic." I feel much the same where this Limbo proclamation is concerned. Yes, in theory, I'm supposed to take what the Pope says / does as being It, i.e., he's God's spokesperson, so to speak. But you know... this is where you can't ignore all that world history and what has been done to others -- by people professing any number of religions -- in God's name.

So... yeah. I put it all to rest by saying that we're all going to find out in the end and we should try to be Good People (tm) in the meantime. Too much time is spent trying to figure out who's "right."
king_cool_paul wrote:
Oct. 8th, 2006 01:22 am (UTC)
There you go: be nice to people and don't take what's not yours.

Sounds like a plan.
mehndi_chick wrote:
Oct. 7th, 2006 07:42 pm (UTC)
*Brilliant*! :D
king_cool_paul wrote:
Oct. 7th, 2006 08:00 pm (UTC)
Just trying to explore my world!


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